Episode Date May 11, 2021
Featured Guest Dan Pontefract
Featured Book "21 Letters on Life and Its Challenges" by Charles Handy

Episode Summary

Dan Pontefract reading from Charles Handy’s ‘21 Letters on Life and Its Challenges’ and discussing the importance of humanity in organizations.

“Human resources” <= This phrase drives me NUTS! It’s a term so common that we’ve grown deaf to the mechanistic coldness of it. How will we ever build organizations that are people-centric and allow for human flourishing … if we consider people just resources? Leadership strategist Dan Pontefract is on the frontlines with me in the quest to shape corporate cultures as human-centered. Dan joins me today to talk about how caring helps organizations flourish, when and where you need to manage, and why every interaction counts.

Dan reads from ‘21 Letters on Life and Its Challenges’ by Charles Handy. [reading begins at 6:05]

Furthermore, we discuss:

  • “To me, the organization is a family” [11:03]
  • Challenges associated with adopting a human-centered way of thinking [14:13]
  • “You’re only as good as your last interaction with someone.” [21:02]
  • Being willing to embrace empathy in the workplace [22:02]
  • Organizational evolution [28:57]
  • “Once you change yourself, you can help to change others.” [33:55]

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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